It is Not the committees job to pick the 4 best teams….

[michael anderson]

Never was, and won’t be this year.

The order this year will be Michigan 1 Washington 2 Texas 3 fsu 4

Note that I don’t believe Texas HAS to be ranked ahead of bama due to hth, and this is a very close call imo due to the hugeness of the ga win(which may be the two best teams in the country in the game of the year) but I gave Texas the edge and committee will too

[mckyj57]

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?

For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.

And what do they consider?

Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head‐to‐head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Post by michael anderson
The order this year will be Michigan 1 Washington 2 Texas 3 fsu 4

If you take them at their word, I think it should be:

Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama

Post by michael anderson
Note that I don’t believe Texas HAS to be ranked ahead of bama due
to hth, and this is a very close call imo due to the hugeness of the
ga win(which may be the two best teams in the country in the game of
the year) but I gave Texas the edge and committee will too

No, no undefeated power 5 team has ever been left out, but losing the
QB who beat LSU and playing in a weaker conference should matter. If
the third stringer had lit it up, it might be different, but if
picking the best team is the goal, they won't elevate FSU. You can't
leave out Alabama, champion of the conference which has won 13 of the
last 17 championships.

[leonard hofstatder]

Post by mckyj57

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head‐to‐head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Post by michael anderson
The order this year will be Michigan 1 Washington 2 Texas 3 fsu 4

Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama

Post by michael anderson
Note that I don’t believe Texas HAS to be ranked ahead of bama due
to hth, and this is a very close call imo due to the hugeness of the
ga win(which may be the two best teams in the country in the game of
the year) but I gave Texas the edge and committee will too

No, no undefeated power 5 team has ever been left out, but losing the
QB who beat LSU and playing in a weaker conference should matter. If
the third stringer had lit it up, it might be different, but if
picking the best team is the goal, they won't elevate FSU. You can't
leave out Alabama, champion of the conference which has won 13 of the
last 17 championships.

+1

[RSFC Moderator]

Post by mckyj57

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head‐to‐head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.

FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.

1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas

If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

[unclejr]

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head‐to‐head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

+1

[j***@mich.com]

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule

against ranked teams

FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports

Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5

winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

[JGibson]

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule
against ranked teams
FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports
Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5
winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

And Alabama didn't win 13 games!

[j***@mich.com]

Post by JGibson

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule
against ranked teams
FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports
Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5
winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

And Alabama didn't win 13 games!

And FSU would not have with Alabama's schedule either. FSU would have had at least two losses.

BTW, here is a Bobby Bowden quote about the time he was fleeing in terror from the SEC invitation FSU had waited so long for
and begging the ACC to take them in.

"When I think of scheduling I look at boxing. It doesn't matter how many patsies you fight, as long as you win you end up in the championship bout."
A lot of people seem to have this attitude.

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by JGibson

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule
against ranked teams
FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports
Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5
winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

And Alabama didn't win 13 games!

And FSU would not have with Alabama's schedule either. FSU would
have had at least two losses.
BTW, here is a Bobby Bowden quote about the time he was fleeing in
terror from the SEC invitation FSU had waited so long for and
begging the ACC to take them in.
"When I think of scheduling I look at boxing. It doesn't matter how
many patsies you fight, as long as you win you end up in the
championship bout." A lot of people seem to have this attitude.

FSU has an easy task should they be all they claim. Beat Georgia
or at least don't get blown out. If they can do that, they can talk
all they want. If not, they can kiss my asterisk.

[j***@mich.com]

Post by Con Reeder, unhyphenated American

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by JGibson

Post by j***@mich.com

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Never was, and won?t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team?s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule
against ranked teams
FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports
Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5
winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

And Alabama didn't win 13 games!

And FSU would not have with Alabama's schedule either. FSU would
have had at least two losses.
BTW, here is a Bobby Bowden quote about the time he was fleeing in
terror from the SEC invitation FSU had waited so long for and
begging the ACC to take them in.
"When I think of scheduling I look at boxing. It doesn't matter how
many patsies you fight, as long as you win you end up in the
championship bout." A lot of people seem to have this attitude.

FSU has an easy task should they be all they claim. Beat Georgia
or at least don't get blown out. If they can do that, they can talk
all they want. If not, they can kiss my asterisk.

Motivation will be in their favor in that game. FSU will have a chip on their shoulder
and Georgia will be thinking they should be in the plaoffs instead of the OB. GA should still
win but it won't be a blowout.

[Corky]

FSU will not score a point

[Michael Falkner]

Post by Corky
FSU will not score a point

That depends on who Georgia puts on the field. They, too, might feel hosed and a lot might opt out there too.

Mike

[rmo]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 12:47:09 -0000 (UTC), "Con Reeder, unhyphenated

Post by Con Reeder, unhyphenated American

On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 11:58:13 -0800 (PST), JGibson

Post by JGibson

On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 06:56:41 -0800 (PST), RSFC Moderator

Post by RSFC Moderator

Post by mckyj57

Never was, and won?t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.
And what do they consider?
Conference championships won, strength of schedule,
head?to?head competition, comparative outcomes of common
opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and, other
relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and
coaches that may have affected a team?s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Somehow, this omits the part about winning games and not losing games.
FSU won all their games and lost none of their games: they should be in.
1 Michigan
2 Washington
3 FSU
4 Texas
If FSU is left out and win their bowl game, give the tournament
winner a big fat asterisk. Or, better, don't to that and let FSU
play for it.

schedule counts, for instance anyone can win against an Ivy League schedule
against ranked teams
FSU played #13 LSU #15 Louisville SOS #55 according to Yahoo Sports
Alabama played #1 Georgia #3 Texas #11 Ole Miss #13 LSU #21 Tenn SOS #5
winning 13 games with FSU's schedule was much easier than with Alabama's

And Alabama didn't win 13 games!

And FSU would not have with Alabama's schedule either. FSU would
have had at least two losses.
BTW, here is a Bobby Bowden quote about the time he was fleeing in
terror from the SEC invitation FSU had waited so long for and
begging the ACC to take them in.
"When I think of scheduling I look at boxing. It doesn't matter how
many patsies you fight, as long as you win you end up in the
championship bout." A lot of people seem to have this attitude.

FSU has an easy task should they be all they claim. Beat Georgia
or at least don't get blown out. If they can do that, they can talk
all they want. If not, they can kiss my asterisk.

Motivation will be in their favor in that game. FSU will have a chip
on their shoulder and Georgia will be thinking they should be in the
plaoffs instead of the OB. GA should still win but it won't be a
blowout.

FSU has greater overall footspeed than Georgia. FSU by 4.

Georgia also has some key players at less than 100%. That doesn't
excuse them for the turd they dropped against Alabama. Georgia looked
like shit hung over the entire game and earned the loss. Unless they
come up with some hillbilly magic they're done, stick a fork in them.

[Michael Falkner]

Post by rmo
FSU has greater overall footspeed than Georgia. FSU by 4.

If you still believe that closer to the Orange Bowl, I suggest you lay some money, because Georgia is a two-touchdown favorite in the game.

Mike

[JE Corbett]

Post by Michael Falkner

Post by rmo
FSU has greater overall footspeed than Georgia. FSU by 4.

If you still believe that closer to the Orange Bowl, I suggest you lay some money, because Georgia is a two-touchdown favorite in the game.

As far as I'm concerned, if FSU beats Georgia, they will have as much right to hoist a national championship banner as
the winner of the CFP.

[Eric Ramon]

Post by JE Corbett

Post by Michael Falkner

Post by rmo
FSU has greater overall footspeed than Georgia. FSU by 4.

If you still believe that closer to the Orange Bowl, I suggest you lay some money, because Georgia is a two-touchdown favorite in the game.

As far as I'm concerned, if FSU beats Georgia, they will have as much right to hoist a national championship banner as
the winner of the CFP.

especially if Alabama wins the tournament

[Michael Falkner]

Post by JE Corbett
As far as I'm concerned, if FSU beats Georgia, they will have as much right to hoist a national championship banner as
the winner of the CFP.

No problems there, and they'll have the Governor's aid and assistance in doing so.

Mike

[Michael Falkner]

Post by mckyj57

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.

What do they say their mission is?
For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will
inevitably need to select the four best teams from among
several with legitimate claims to participate.

And they basically just said FSU has no legitimate claim, due to their injuries.

Post by mckyj57
Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama

And that's exactly what happened.

Post by mckyj57
No, no undefeated power 5 team has ever been left out, but losing the
QB who beat LSU and playing in a weaker conference should matter. If
the third stringer had lit it up, it might be different, but if
picking the best team is the goal, they won't elevate FSU. You can't
leave out Alabama, champion of the conference which has won 13 of the
last 17 championships.

You shouldn't really have left out Georgia either, to be frank, but that would require another spine on the part of the Committee.

Mike

[The NOTBCS Guy]

Post by michael anderson
Never was, and won’t be this year.
The order this year will be Michigan 1 Washington 2 Texas 3 fsu 4
Note that I don’t believe Texas HAS to be ranked ahead of bama due to hth, and this is a very close call imo due to the hugeness of the ga win(which may be the two best teams in the country in the game of the year) but I gave Texas the edge and committee will too

Well, you got the "Texas ranked ahead of Alabama" part right...

The last time you were absolutely convinced Alabama would not get into the tournament - IIRC, you even made a bet that they wouldn't - they ended up winning the whole thing.

And how many years ago was it that you got mad because you could not get time off to go to the national championship because you were convinced that it would be Saban's last chance to win one?

[Michael Falkner]

Post by The NOTBCS Guy
Well, you got the "Texas ranked ahead of Alabama" part right...
The last time you were absolutely convinced Alabama would not get into the tournament - IIRC, you even made a bet that they wouldn't - they ended up winning the whole thing.
And how many years ago was it that you got mad because you could not get time off to go to the national championship because you were convinced that it would be Saban's last chance to win one?

Given ESPN has pulled the "hundreds of millions of reasons" card, I fully think Alabama with RSFCk MIchigan and Texas to win the Natty.

Mike