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JGibson
2023-12-06 01:07:08 UTC
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Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
Michael Falkner
2023-12-06 04:22:13 UTC
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Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
That's not already happening?

And if it's not, it's probably only because they want good tape for the pro scouts.

Mike
JE Corbett
2023-12-06 15:31:09 UTC
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Post by Michael Falkner
Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
That's not already happening?
And if it's not, it's probably only because they want good tape for the pro scouts.
Mike
Didn't JaMarr Chase opt out of his last year at LSU or am I thinking of someone else?
The NOTBCS Guy
2023-12-06 16:23:48 UTC
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Post by JE Corbett
Didn't JaMarr Chase opt out of his last year at LSU or am I thinking of someone else?
I don't think leaving a year (or more) early to turn pro is what is meant by "opting out" here - it's leaving a team before a season ends.
JGibson
2023-12-06 16:33:55 UTC
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Post by Michael Falkner
Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
That's not already happening?
And if it's not, it's probably only because they want good tape for the pro scouts.
Mike
Didn't JaMarr Chase opt out of his last year at LSU or am I thinking of someone else?
That was 2020, so it doesn't really count.
JGibson
2023-12-06 16:32:37 UTC
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Post by Michael Falkner
Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
That's not already happening?
And if it's not, it's probably only because they want good tape for the pro scouts.
Found one example of an Oklahoma guy doing it, and Stoops going ballistic on him. My question really came up because Chop Robinson (PSU) has opted out of the bowl game. But why did he even bother playing against Michigan State? I can sort of see the Rutgers game because that was his last home game, but what relevance did the MSU game have vs. the bowl game?
RoddyMcCorley
2023-12-07 05:32:40 UTC
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Post by JGibson
Post by Michael Falkner
Now, we opt out of "meaningless" bowl games. How long before players start opting out of the season once they know they aren't playoff bound?
That's not already happening?
And if it's not, it's probably only because they want good tape for the pro scouts.
Found one example of an Oklahoma guy doing it, and Stoops going ballistic on him. My question really came up because Chop Robinson (PSU) has opted out of the bowl game. But why did he even bother playing against Michigan State? I can sort of see the Rutgers game because that was his last home game, but what relevance did the MSU game have vs. the bowl game?
Tennessee's Jalen Hurd, a very good running back, "opted out" during his
jr season. He wanted to be also used as a receiver (he did have good
hands) and apparently Butch Jones agreed. However, he never got the
opportunity and pretty much told Jones FU. Then enrolled at Baylor and
had good success. He may be hanging on a taxi squad somewhere.
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Michael Falkner
2023-12-07 06:51:15 UTC
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Post by RoddyMcCorley
Tennessee's Jalen Hurd, a very good running back, "opted out" during his
jr season. He wanted to be also used as a receiver (he did have good
hands) and apparently Butch Jones agreed. However, he never got the
opportunity and pretty much told Jones FU. Then enrolled at Baylor and
had good success. He may be hanging on a taxi squad somewhere.
Retired this past offseason/training camp.

Mike

The NOTBCS Guy
2023-12-06 18:00:58 UTC
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Meanwhile, Brock Vandagriff will opt out of the Orange Bowl, presumably as he doesn't want to get injured before the NFL draft...but that doesn't stop him from announcing that he will be in the Senior Bowl.

Okay, the Senior Bowl is probably like the NFL Pro Bowl in that defense is sporadic at best, so an injury probably won't be much of a worry, but still...
Michael Falkner
2023-12-06 21:56:47 UTC
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Post by The NOTBCS Guy
Meanwhile, Brock Vandagriff will opt out of the Orange Bowl, presumably as he doesn't want to get injured before the NFL draft...but that doesn't stop him from announcing that he will be in the Senior Bowl.
Okay, the Senior Bowl is probably like the NFL Pro Bowl in that defense is sporadic at best, so an injury probably won't be much of a worry, but still...
And the Senior Bowl is basically full of NFL scouts that entire week.

No surprise whatsoever.

Mike
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